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Why is my unvented cylinder discharging through the tundish?

Quick answer

A dripping tundish almost always means the expansion vessel has lost its air charge. Water then has nowhere to expand, pressure climbs past the expansion relief valve at around 6 bar, and the surplus dumps to the tundish. Recharge the vessel to the incoming 3–3.5 bar with the system drained; if it will not hold that charge, the diaphragm has failed.

Cover graphic: Why is my unvented cylinder discharging through the tundish?

Why is water coming out of my tundish?

Because something upstream is relieving pressure, and in four cases out of five that something is a flat expansion vessel. Heating 200 litres of water from 10 °C to 60 °C expands it by three to four litres. An unvented cylinder is a sealed system, so that volume has to go somewhere: into the expansion vessel, or out through a relief valve. When the vessel loses its air charge, there is no cushion left, pressure rises sharply during every heating cycle, and the expansion relief valve opens.

The classic signature is a drip that starts when the cylinder is heating and stops once it has cooled. That pattern is diagnostic — it is the pressure cycling, not a failing valve.

Which device is actually discharging?

A typical unvented installation has three protective devices in series, each with a different trigger. Match the symptom to the device before touching anything:

What you observeDeviceMost likely causeAction
Drips while heating, stops when coolExpansion relief valve (~6 bar)Expansion vessel has lost its air chargeRecharge or replace the vessel
Drips continuously, hot or coldExpansion relief valveScale or debris on the valve seatClean or replace the valve
Mains pressure creeping above 4 barPressure reducing valveWorn cartridge, no longer limiting supplyReplace the PRV cartridge
Very hot water or steam, tank overheatingTemperature and pressure relief valveFailed thermostat or thermal cut-outIsolate the heat source immediately
Drips although the gauge reads normalExpansion relief valve or gaugeValve passing, or the gauge itself has failedVerify pressure independently

How do I recharge or replace the expansion vessel?

The charge is checked with the water side depressurised — checking a pressurised vessel gives a meaningless reading. The sequence is: isolate the cold feed, open a hot tap to drop the cylinder pressure to zero, then read the Schrader valve on the vessel with a tyre gauge. The pre-charge should match the incoming pressure set by the pressure reducing valve, normally 3.0–3.5 bar. Top up with a foot pump, close up, and repressurise.

If the vessel will not hold that charge for a few days, the diaphragm has ruptured and the vessel must be replaced. For a 200 litre cylinder that means a 12–18 litre vessel. Some cylinders use an internal air gap or floating baffle instead of an external vessel; those are recharged by draining the cylinder to re-establish the air pocket, which is a routine annual service task rather than a fault.

In England and Wales, unvented hot water systems fall under Building Regulations Part G3, and work on their safety devices must be carried out by a competent person. Elsewhere in Europe the construction and safety requirements sit in EN 12897, which covers indirectly heated unvented cylinders for supply pressures of 0.5 to 10 bar and storage up to 95 °C — including how the expansion vessel and relief devices must be arranged.

When is tundish discharge a safety issue rather than a nuisance?

When the water discharging is very hot or flashing to steam. That means the temperature and pressure relief valve has opened — the last line of defence — and something has failed in the temperature control chain: a stuck immersion thermostat, a defeated thermal cut-out, or a boiler control fault. Shut off the heat source and call an engineer the same day. A tundish quietly dripping cool water during heating cycles is a repair job; a tundish discharging scalding water is a live safety fault.

The tundish itself exists precisely so this is visible. UK Approved Document G3 practice puts the tundish within 500 mm of the relief valve, with the discharge terminating where it can be seen and where nobody can be scalded. Never plumb a tundish out of sight or cap it — that removes the only warning the system gives you.

How do I stop it happening again?

  • Check the expansion vessel pre-charge annually. It is a two-minute job and it prevents the most common failure outright.
  • Verify the pressure reducing valve setting, especially if incoming mains pressure is high or variable.
  • Descale in hard water areas. Scale on the valve seat and on the immersion element causes both nuisance dripping and overheating faults.
  • Keep the storage temperature sensible. Cycling to 70 °C every day expands more water, stresses the vessel harder and accelerates scaling; 55–60 °C is enough for legionella control with a thermostatic mixing valve at the outlets.
  • Service the magnesium anode on enamel-lined tanks at the same visit — a corroded tank is a much larger problem than a wet tundish. Solimpeks builds its enamel-coated tanks to DIN 4753 with accessible anodes for exactly this reason.

Frequently asked questions

What pressure should an unvented cylinder expansion vessel be set to?

Match the pre-charge to the incoming pressure set by the pressure reducing valve, normally 3.0–3.5 bar. Always check it with the water side fully depressurised — a reading taken under system pressure tells you nothing.

Is a dripping tundish dangerous?

Cool water dripping during heating cycles is a fault to repair, not an emergency. Very hot water or steam means the temperature and pressure relief valve has opened because a thermostat has failed — shut off the heat source and call an engineer immediately.

Can I just replace the expansion relief valve?

Only if the valve itself is passing because of scale or debris. If the cause is a flat expansion vessel, a new valve will discharge just the same within days. Diagnose the vessel first; it is the cause in most cases.

Why does my tundish drip when the pressure gauge reads zero?

Usually because the relief valve is passing on a scaled or damaged seat, or the gauge itself has failed. Verify the pressure with a separate gauge before concluding there is no pressure in the system.

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